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How Donald Trump tried to court the Atlantic – and why the liberal magazine landed an interview
Hell hath frozen over: At the White House the other day, Donald Trump «was launching a charm offensive, directed mainly at Goldberg,» as in Jeffrey Goldberg, the Atlantic’s editor-in-chief. «There was none of the name-calling or hostility he regularly levels at our magazine.»
That’s according to Atlantic reporters Ashley Parker and Michael Scherer, who wrote the magazine’s cover story, which was posted yesterday.
For all the insights gleaned from the interview, nothing is more fascinating than how it came about.
They called the president on his cell phone. (Wha? Who do I have to court to get that? The reporters ain’t saying.)
Trump says he did the initial phone interview to see if the liberal magazine could be fair.
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So I’m here to pronounce that the entire, seemingly endless piece is fair. The president hasn’t taken a shot at it on Truth Social, at least so far.
He has, however, ripped new polls from the «Failing New York Times» and «ABC/Washington Post» as «FAKE POLLS FROM FAKE NEWS ORGANIZATIONS,» saying they should be «investigated for ELECTION FRAUD, and add in the Fox News Pollster while you’re at it.» His lowest approval rating, in the Post-ABC survey, was 39 percent.
Meanwhile, we may now look back on Trump’s 2024 victory as inevitable, but after Jan. 6 it was anything but. On the cell call, «The president seemed exhilarated by everything he had managed to do in the first two months of his second term.»
President Trump recently gave an interview to The Atlantic. (BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images)
And then came the transaction: «As ever, Trump was on the hunt for a deal. If he liked the story we wrote, he said, he might even speak with us again.»
Goldberg describes the session: «What I found in this particular meeting was a Trump who was low-key, attentive, and eager to convince us that he is good at his job and good for the country. It isn’t easy to escape the tractor beam of his charisma, but somehow we managed, and we asked him what needed to be asked.
«But squaring Trump the Charmer with the Orcish Trump we more frequently see is difficult…Trump posted on the social-media platform he owns that Ashley is a ‘Radical Left Lunatic’ (she is not) and that Michael ‘has never written a fair story about me, only negative, and virtually always LIES’ (also false). It is our task at the Atlantic not to be bullied by these sorts of attacks.»
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The most interesting Trump sound bite is his comparison of the two terms:
«The first time, I had two things to do—run the country and survive; I had all these crooked guys. And the second time, I run the country and the world.»
Parker and Scherer did many other interviews, such as with Steve Bannon. «Our reality is that we won,» and he cited the conspiracy theory that the FBI had incited the crowd on Jan. 6. The reporters said that was simply untrue.
«Now, here’s the interesting thing,» Bannon said. «Who’s won that argument? I think we have…
«This time it’s ‘Hey, f**k you, Greenland’s ours…When you’ve come back from such long odds, you clearly feel, ‘I can do anything.’ »
What about the four criminal investigations, including the conviction on the weakest one – Alvin Bragg’s hush money case? Trump says his numbers kept going up.
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«Shockingly, yes,» Trump said. «Normally, it would knock you out. You wouldn’t even live for the next day. You know, you’d announce your resignation, and you’d go back and ‘fight for your name,’ like everybody says—you know, ‘fight for your name, go back to your family.’ …Yeah, it made me stronger, made me a lot stronger.»
He also said in the phone interview: «I got indicted five different times by five different scumbags, and they’re all looking for jobs now, so it’s one of those things. Who would have thought, right? It’s been pretty amazing.»
After the 2016 election, Trump told oil executives at Mar-a-Lago:
If I’m not president, you’re f***ed. Look at your profit-and-loss statements. You realize what would have happened to you if she was president? What’s wrong with you?») She was Kamala Harris, of course.
Referring to the criminal cases against him – including the charges brought forth by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, Trump said «it made [him] stronger.» (Fulton County Sheriff’s Office via AP / Trump-Vance Transition Team)
One turning point: When he went to East Palestine, Ohio after the derailment of a train carrying toxic chemicals, while Joe Biden didn’t do squat.
On the Kennedy Center: «I didn’t really get to go the first time, because I was always getting impeached or some bulls**t, and I could never enjoy a show.» So he fired the Democrats and made himself chairman.
All right, enough quotes. Wait, one more that captures the tone of the piece:
«I got 38 percent of the male Black vote. Nobody knew that was possible. That’s a lot. I got 56 percent of Hispanics. How about that one? Every county along the Texas border is Hispanic. I won every one of them.» Though every single number he cited was wrong, the general thrust of his observation was correct.»
The reporters chronicled how things have gone south for the president, especially on tariffs and the economy, and how he pressured Hill Republicans into backing his nominees with primary threats.
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After the March phone interview, the reporters tried Trump’s cellphone again. Just got voice mail. But at 1:38 am, he tried them back. No message.
Trump believes he can win over even his worst enemies. In 2015 or 2016, I watched him make a beeline in the New York green room for Karl Rove, who was very rough on him. At worst, he thinks, he can neutralize the person. Or soften him or her up for the next time. He enjoys the challenge.
The mainstream media almost uniformly can’t stand Donald Trump. He does invite some of his own negative headlines, while providing unprecedented access, but much of the press is back in Resistance mode.
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Still, the Atlantic’s original pitch is undeniable, that he’s «The Most Consequential President of the 21st Century.»
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More than 2.8 million Brits have signed a petition as of Wednesday, calling on the U.K. government to reverse its mandatory Digital ID system over concerns it will lead to «mass surveillance and digital control.»
The ID program, dubbed «Brit Card» and announced last week by U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer, is set to be rolled out by August 2029 in an attempt by the Labour government to crack down on illegal immigration as it would bar anyone who doesn’t have a digital ID from working in the U.K.
But critics of the plan argue its effects on illegal immigration will not be significant enough to make up for the privacy concerns it poses.
Prime Minister Keir Starmer gives his speech during the Labour Party conference at ACC Liverpool on Sept. 30, 2025 in Liverpool, England. ( Ian Forsyth/Getty Images)
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The White House confirmed to Fox News Digital that this controversial step to curb immigration is not currently being considered by President Donald Trump, despite his commitment to curbing illegal immigration and his security crackdowns in cities across the U.S.
But according to one security expert, digital ID is actually not nearly as concerning as most opponents of the system believe it to be.
«When the government issues a digital ID, they’re issuing it to the individual. That means, just like your paper ID sits in your physical wallet, your digital ID sits in your digital wallet, it’s not stored at a central location,» Eric Starr, founder and CEO of Ultrapass Identity Corp, told Fox News Digital.
«When you pass your digital ID to a relying party, they don’t ping a central database,» he continued. «They look at the digital ID you’ve presented, and through cryptography, can determine the authenticity of the digital document.»
Starr, whose company works with governments around the world to provide decentralized digital ID options, said the controversy around digital ID comes down to poor conception and a lack of understanding.
The tech guru said he believes the U.K. went about its rollout of a digital ID the wrong way by making it mandatory and releasing few details on the system itself.
Starr argued that governments have the right to know who its citizens are and nations, including the U.S., already have systems in place that keep track of its people, including by issuing Social Security Numbers – a system that the U.S. has relied on since 1936.
When pressed about concerns relating to a government’s ability to enforce mass surveillance through the ease that the technology could offer, even if that is not the original intent, Starr said it comes down to establishing those protections for personal privacy from the get-go.
A Harmons Grocery Store employee does a demonstration as she scans a QR Code (R) from a customer’s phone (L) to verify his age on a beer purchase at a Harmons Grocery store on August 4, 2021, in Salt Lake City, Utah. (George Frey/Getty Images)
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«We care deeply about personal freedom in ways that other countries don’t think about it, and generally speaking, individuals don’t want the federal government in their business every day,» Starr explained in reference to the American public. «The fear that people have about digital identity is that it’s a surveillance opportunity.»
Starr explained that some are concerned that any time a digital ID is used, it will then alert or «phone home» a government tracking system – a concern that privacy advocates like the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the ACLU have flagged.
«It’s not about the technology, but managing fear and managing what actually gets deployed,» he added, noting that safeguards can be put in place to counter these concerns.
Even though there is no federal version of a digital ID, more than a dozen states have already begun issuing mobile driver’s licenses.
A federal version of a digital ID would, in theory, just include an individual’s information that the government already has access to, including details like passport information.
But there’s another major concern people flag when it comes to digital IDs – how to ensure personal information is protected from identity theft, which has become a major concern in recent years amid mass cyber breaches.
A person scans and downloads an app to start the process of converting their physical driver license to an official digital version to be stored on a mobile phone at a Harmons Grocery store on Aug. 4, 2021 in Salt Lake City, Utah. (George Frey/Getty Images)
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According to Starr, the «architecture of digital identity» is different from centralized databases used by institutions like hospitals, which have found themselves vulnerable to cyber-attacks and data breaches.
Decentralized systems, as in the case of a digital ID, make hacking «nearly impossible» because «the only way to hack a million IDs is to hack a million phones,» he explained.
«There are solutions. It’s not a technology issue, it’s an education issue, it’s a fear issue,» Starr said. «It’s also poorly conceived solutions that open the door for bad behavior.»
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Dem candidate under fire for saying he’d ‘kick the s—’ out of Trump advisor Stephen Miller
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A Democrat congressional candidate’s history of violent rhetoric is coming under fire after his public vow to «kick the s—» out of senior Donald Trump aide Stephen Miller resurfaced online.
«Stephen Miller needs to be THUMPED! That guy’s a freaking worm. I would be willing to go to jail for – I mean, how much [time] would I get for just cracking him a couple of times?» North Carolina congressional candidate Richard Ojeda said while recording one of his regular «Ojeda LIVE» live streams in March 2022.
«I’d be willing to go to jail to kick the s— out of him,» he added. «I’d be more than happy to find myself in an elevator with him and I’d whoop his a– from the first floor to the fifth floor and be happy to go to jail.»
The Trump administration was quick to denounce the rhetoric.
«Unfortunately, Democrats disgustingly supporting political violence is nothing new,» White House spokesperson Kush Desai told Fox News Digital. «Neither Stephen Miller nor any other member of the administration is going to back down from delivering on President Trump’s agenda to Make America Great Again. In the meantime, Richard Ojeda should seek help.»
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North Carolina Democratic congressional candidate Richard Ojeda (left) is under fire for past comments about how he would be willing to go to jail if he ever got the opportunity to «kick the sh— out of» top Trump aide Stephen Miller. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images; Sarah Silbiger/CQ Roll Call)
Speaking in response to the backlash his comments have garnered, Ojeda said that despite his language, he does not believe that violence is the answer.
«The language I used in that video reflects my discontent with how political figures like Steven [sic] Miller are steering the nation I served for 24 years in the U.S. Army. I believe his conduct and the conduct of many who enable him to be a betrayal of our oath that I can not accept,» the Democrat candidate said in a statement he sent to Fox News Digital.
«That said, political violence has no place in our society. I know that better than most. When I first ran for state senate, I was beaten nearly to death on a creek bank simply for putting my name on the ballot in defense of my community. My family wasn’t sure I’d make it out of the ER that night, and I won my seat from a hospital bed. I survived my attack, but as we know many others haven’t. Political violence has spiraled toward darkness in our country and I would not use those same words today.»
Ojeda also pointed to the fact that he grew up around coal miners, people who «talk tough and don’t mince words about how they feel.»
Criticism of Ojeda’s controversial rhetoric comes amid heightened GOP concerns surrounding inflammatory and violent political rhetoric in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination and multiple attempted assassinations on President Donald Trump. Even Democrats have warned that «violent words precede violent actions» and that «we should have a culture of condemning any rhetoric that glorifies violence.»
Meanwhile, this week, Virginia’s Democrat candidate for attorney general, Jay Jones, came under fire after text messages surfaced of him saying his Republican colleague should get «two bullets to the head.»
Ojeda is running to represent North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District in the House of Representatives. A veteran who served in the prestigious 82nd Airborne Division, he had a short stint in the West Virginia state Senate before attempting multiple failed runs for Congress at both the House and Senate level. Those runs include two failed bids for the U.S. House in 2014 and 2018, followed by a short-lived run for the presidency that preceded an unsuccessful bid for the U.S. Senate in 2020.
Amid his current race, Ojeda has raised more money than any other Democratic candidate he is facing in the upcoming North Carolina Democratic primary, according to Federal Election Commission records.
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Richard Ojeda can be seen on the campaign trail during his short-lived presidential bid in 2020. (John Sommers II/Getty Images)
In his comments to Fox News Digital, Ojeda noted that the remarks being referenced are four years old, and they were made «long before» he ever considered running for Congress, even though he had already run three failed bids up to that point. He also reiterated multiple times that he condemns political violence.
«I’ll admit I was angry then, and I’m still angry now. Angry at what people like Stephen Miller are doing to this nation,» Ojeda concluded in his comments to Fox News Digital. «The fact that he holds a place in our history books disgusts me, and I think it disgusts a lot of Americans. Steven Miller is a racist.»
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Charlie Kirk warned his followers to be weary of «assassination culture» among the left months before his own assassination on the campus of Utah Valley University. (Getty Images)
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Prior to his assassination last month, Kirk warned «assassination culture» was spreading on the left in a post on social media. At the time, months before his death, Kirk’s post cited survey data showing 55% of left-leaning respondents said killing Trump could be justified.
Kirk called the violent momentum a «natural outgrowth of left-wing protest culture,» and accused the left of tolerating «violence and mayhem,» while also slamming «the cowardice» of local prosecutors and school officials for their complicity in promoting the trend of violent attitudes.
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El femicidio que conmocionó a Francia: fue quemada viva por su exmarido tras haberlo denunciado por violencia
El 4 de mayo de 2021, Chahinez Daoud, de nacionalidad argelina, salió de su casa en el barrio francés de Mérignac sin imaginar que su exmarido la estaba esperando. Minutos después, fue atacada brutalmente: la roció con un líquido inflamable y la quemó viva frente a los vecinos que intentaban ayudarla.
La mujer tenía 31 años, era madre de tres hijos y había denunciado en varias ocasiones a su agresor, identificado como Mounir Boutaa, quien al momento del hecho tenía una restricción perimetral.
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El caso generó indignación y una gran repercusión en Francia, ya que la investigación demostró graves fallas en el sistema de protección de las víctimas de violencia de género.
Un crimen atroz
En junio de 2020, Boutaa fue condenado a 18 meses de cárcel por golpear a Chahinez, aunque fue liberado en diciembre de ese mismo año, apenas cinco meses antes del crimen.
En ese entonces, la Justicia le impuso una orden de restricción que le prohibía acercarse a ella y a sus hijos. Sin embargo, estas medidas no se cumplieron y el hombre comenzó a seguirla y a amenazarla constantemente.
De acuerdo a la investigación posterior, la víctima había denunciado estos episodios a la policía local, pero no recibió ninguna respuesta efectiva ni obtuvo protección policial en su casa. Representación gráfica de Mounir Boutaa en el juicio por el asesinato de su exmujer. (Foto: Franceinfo)
El día del crimen, el 4 de mayo, Boutaa se presentó en la dirección donde su exmujer vivía junto a sus tres hijos. Estaba armado y llevaba una botella con combustible.
El hombre esperó a que Daoud saliera para dispararle varias veces e impedir que escapara. En cuestión de segundos, la arrastró hasta la vereda y la prendió fuego. Luego, incendió su casa y se dio a la fuga.
Varios testigos presenciaron la escena, sin poder creer lo que estaba ocurriendo. A pesar de que llamaron a una ambulancia y a las fuerzas policiales, no pudieron hacer nada para salvarla. Incluso, muchos de ellos grabaron algunas imágenes del brutal ataque y se viralizaron rápidamente en las redes sociales y medios franceses.
Poco después del asesinato, las autoridades lograron detener al agresor a unos kilómetros del lugar, a pesar de haberse resistido. Chahinez tenía 31 años y era madre de tres hijos cuando fue asesinada por su exmarido. (Foto: Libération)
Un país conmocionado y un intenso debate
Tras el impactante femicidio, el presidente Emmanuel Macron y el entonces ministro del Interior, Gérald Darmain, se refirieron públicamente al caso y admitieron los errores del sistema de protección.
Luego de ello, el gobierno ordenó una investigación interna para determinar si las autoridades locales habían fallado en su deber de proteger a la víctima.
Días después del crimen, miles de personas se movilizaron en distintas ciudades del país para exigir justicia y reclamar medidas concretas para evitar casos similares. Los vecinos en los alrededores de la casa de Chahinez luego del ataque. (Foto: EFE)
En el medio de la conmoción, la autopsia al cuerpo de Chahinez confirmó que la causa de muerte fue por las quemaduras provocadas durante el ataque. Además, el avance de la investigación permitió que la fiscalía pudiera determinar algunas pruebas que complicaron la situación de Mounir Boutaa.
En primer lugar, los agentes establecieron que el exmarido de la víctima actuó con premeditación y extrema violencia, ya que en los días previos al ataque, había buscado información en Internet sobre cómo fabricar bombas caseras y manipular combustibles inflamables.
Asimismo, el testimonio de los testigos que vieron la escena y las filmaciones se posicionaron como los elementos materiales fundamentales en el expediente. Miles de mujeres se movilizaron para pedir justicia por el femicidio de Chahinez. (Foto: France 24)
Mientras tanto, la cobertura del caso en la prensa francesa abrió un intenso debate sobre cómo un acto semejante pudo haber sucedido, pese a las denuncias previas. De esta manera, Chahinez fue considerada por los medios como “la víctima que el Estado no supo proteger”, una consigna que se vio reflejada en la indignación de la sociedad y en los carteles que se veían en las marchas por el pedido de justicia.
En paralelo, hace años que las organizaciones feministas venían pidiendo una revisión de las políticas que monitoreaban a los condenados por violencia de género. Sin embargo, no fue hasta el femicidio de Chahinez que esta medida se activó. Fue así cómo se aceleró la implementación de tobilleras electrónicas y diferentes dispositivos de geolocalización para los agresores que se reincidían en la sociedad.
El juicio
Finalmente, en marzo de 2025, comenzó el juicio contra Mounir Boutaa en el Tribunal de lo Penal de Gironda. En las audiencias, el acusado reconoció haber atacado a su exmujer, aunque intentó atribuir su conducta a un supuesto “estado de furia”. “Me hirió tanto que no sentí nada, no me siento culpable”, sostuvo el acusado en su declaración.
Sin embargo, los fiscales sostuvieron que el crimen fue planificado y llevado a cabo con “frialdad”. Por su parte, la defensa argumentó que Mounir “actuó bajo impulsos emocionales”. Los padres de Chahinez en el juicio contra el femicida. (Foto: La Croix)
La familia de la mujer asesinada asistió al juicio acompañada de organizaciones de mujeres y activistas por los derechos humanos. La madre de Chahinez fue una de las que tomó la palabra ante el tribunal y pidió que el caso sirviera “para que ninguna otra mujer muera por falta de protección”.
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La audiencia final se centró en la responsabilidad de las instituciones, con representantes del Ministerio del Interior y de la Justicia convocados como testigos. Ambos organismos admitieron que hubo “fallas en la comunicación” entre las dependencias que debían controlar al femicida.
El tribunal declaró culpable a Mounir Boutaa por el asesinato de su exesposa y lo condenó a cadena perpetua. Además, la sentencia incluyó un período de seguridad de 22 años, esto quiere decir que no podrá solicitar la libertad condicional o reducción de pena hasta haber cumplido ese tiempo en la cárcel.
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