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How Donald Trump tried to court the Atlantic – and why the liberal magazine landed an interview

Hell hath frozen over: At the White House the other day, Donald Trump «was launching a charm offensive, directed mainly at Goldberg,» as in Jeffrey Goldberg, the Atlantic’s editor-in-chief. «There was none of the name-calling or hostility he regularly levels at our magazine.»
That’s according to Atlantic reporters Ashley Parker and Michael Scherer, who wrote the magazine’s cover story, which was posted yesterday.
For all the insights gleaned from the interview, nothing is more fascinating than how it came about.
They called the president on his cell phone. (Wha? Who do I have to court to get that? The reporters ain’t saying.)
Trump says he did the initial phone interview to see if the liberal magazine could be fair.
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So I’m here to pronounce that the entire, seemingly endless piece is fair. The president hasn’t taken a shot at it on Truth Social, at least so far.
He has, however, ripped new polls from the «Failing New York Times» and «ABC/Washington Post» as «FAKE POLLS FROM FAKE NEWS ORGANIZATIONS,» saying they should be «investigated for ELECTION FRAUD, and add in the Fox News Pollster while you’re at it.» His lowest approval rating, in the Post-ABC survey, was 39 percent.
Meanwhile, we may now look back on Trump’s 2024 victory as inevitable, but after Jan. 6 it was anything but. On the cell call, «The president seemed exhilarated by everything he had managed to do in the first two months of his second term.»
President Trump recently gave an interview to The Atlantic. (BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images)
And then came the transaction: «As ever, Trump was on the hunt for a deal. If he liked the story we wrote, he said, he might even speak with us again.»
Goldberg describes the session: «What I found in this particular meeting was a Trump who was low-key, attentive, and eager to convince us that he is good at his job and good for the country. It isn’t easy to escape the tractor beam of his charisma, but somehow we managed, and we asked him what needed to be asked.
«But squaring Trump the Charmer with the Orcish Trump we more frequently see is difficult…Trump posted on the social-media platform he owns that Ashley is a ‘Radical Left Lunatic’ (she is not) and that Michael ‘has never written a fair story about me, only negative, and virtually always LIES’ (also false). It is our task at the Atlantic not to be bullied by these sorts of attacks.»
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The most interesting Trump sound bite is his comparison of the two terms:
«The first time, I had two things to do—run the country and survive; I had all these crooked guys. And the second time, I run the country and the world.»
Parker and Scherer did many other interviews, such as with Steve Bannon. «Our reality is that we won,» and he cited the conspiracy theory that the FBI had incited the crowd on Jan. 6. The reporters said that was simply untrue.
«Now, here’s the interesting thing,» Bannon said. «Who’s won that argument? I think we have…
«This time it’s ‘Hey, f**k you, Greenland’s ours…When you’ve come back from such long odds, you clearly feel, ‘I can do anything.’ »
What about the four criminal investigations, including the conviction on the weakest one – Alvin Bragg’s hush money case? Trump says his numbers kept going up.
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«Shockingly, yes,» Trump said. «Normally, it would knock you out. You wouldn’t even live for the next day. You know, you’d announce your resignation, and you’d go back and ‘fight for your name,’ like everybody says—you know, ‘fight for your name, go back to your family.’ …Yeah, it made me stronger, made me a lot stronger.»
He also said in the phone interview: «I got indicted five different times by five different scumbags, and they’re all looking for jobs now, so it’s one of those things. Who would have thought, right? It’s been pretty amazing.»
After the 2016 election, Trump told oil executives at Mar-a-Lago:
If I’m not president, you’re f***ed. Look at your profit-and-loss statements. You realize what would have happened to you if she was president? What’s wrong with you?») She was Kamala Harris, of course.

Referring to the criminal cases against him – including the charges brought forth by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, Trump said «it made [him] stronger.» (Fulton County Sheriff’s Office via AP / Trump-Vance Transition Team)
One turning point: When he went to East Palestine, Ohio after the derailment of a train carrying toxic chemicals, while Joe Biden didn’t do squat.
On the Kennedy Center: «I didn’t really get to go the first time, because I was always getting impeached or some bulls**t, and I could never enjoy a show.» So he fired the Democrats and made himself chairman.
All right, enough quotes. Wait, one more that captures the tone of the piece:
«I got 38 percent of the male Black vote. Nobody knew that was possible. That’s a lot. I got 56 percent of Hispanics. How about that one? Every county along the Texas border is Hispanic. I won every one of them.» Though every single number he cited was wrong, the general thrust of his observation was correct.»
The reporters chronicled how things have gone south for the president, especially on tariffs and the economy, and how he pressured Hill Republicans into backing his nominees with primary threats.
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After the March phone interview, the reporters tried Trump’s cellphone again. Just got voice mail. But at 1:38 am, he tried them back. No message.
Trump believes he can win over even his worst enemies. In 2015 or 2016, I watched him make a beeline in the New York green room for Karl Rove, who was very rough on him. At worst, he thinks, he can neutralize the person. Or soften him or her up for the next time. He enjoys the challenge.
The mainstream media almost uniformly can’t stand Donald Trump. He does invite some of his own negative headlines, while providing unprecedented access, but much of the press is back in Resistance mode.
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Still, the Atlantic’s original pitch is undeniable, that he’s «The Most Consequential President of the 21st Century.»
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Pentagon unveils $961B budget request: Fund for Golden Dome, missiles and drones, fewer F-35 jets

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The Pentagon unveiled details of its $961 billion budget request on Thursday, a budget roadmap that may deprioritize new F-35 fighter jets in favor of next-generation aircraft and drones.
The budget would reach that figure through $848.3 billion in its discretionary defense budget and an additional $113 billion through reconciliation, the «One Big Beautiful Bill» the Trump administration is trying to muscle through Congress right now.
The parallel budget requests include $25 billion for Golden Dome, President Donald Trump’s homeland missile defense initiative.
And as the Trump administration moves forward with the Air Force’s 6th-gen fighter jet, dubbed the F-47, the budget calls for a reduction in the next purchase of F-35s from 74 to 47. It requests $3.4 billion for the F-47 program.
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Defense budget prioritizes drones and missiles while cutting F-35 orders from 74 to 47. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Alora R. Blosch)
Officials are still unsure whether the Navy’s next-gen fighter jet, F/A-XX, will move forward.
«Waiting for a decision from the secretary of the Navy, secretary of defense, and the president,» a defense official told reporters. «That’s an active conversation, whether to continue with the program or not.»
The program will proceed right now with «minimal funding» for design, the official said.
Asked whether other service branches may get a different variant of the F-47 instead of entirely separate programs, the official said the idea is under consideration.
«I would say pretty much everything is under consideration to get the [tactical] air capability that our war fighters need as quickly as possible, and that’s really what we’re looking at the most, is the schedule of all these programs.»
The budget requests funding for three new Navy ships through the discretionary request and another 16 through the reconciliation request.
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The budget boosts spending on low-cost small drones, which have proven effective in the war between Russia and Ukraine. (Reuters/Jonathan Ernst)
The proposed budget seeks $197.4 billion for the Army, $292.2 billion for the Navy, $301.1 billion for the Air Force and $170.9 billion defense-wide. In the Air Force budget request is $40 billion for Space Force, a 30% increase from fiscal year 2025.
The unusual budget structure, which officials classify as «one budget, two bills,» is part of a broader $1 trillion defense strategy when combined with national security spending at the Department of Energy. Administration officials have been working overtime to convince lawmakers to pass the One Big Beautiful bill by July 4.
The budget asks for a 3.8% pay raise for troops, and it reveals plans to cut its civilian employee workforce by 7,286 people.
The Pentagon plans to continue to invest in munitions and weapons systems: the Joint Air to Surface Standoff Missile – Extended Range and Long Range Anti-Ship missile, which have longer ranges and may be more effective in the Pacific – but it seeks far fewer Precision Strike Missiles.
The budget boosts spending on low-cost small drones which have proven effective in the war between Russia and Ukraine.

In an ideal world, Congress would pass 12 separate appropriations bills before the start of the fiscal year on October 1. But in recent years, it has often punted the headache down the road. (Reuters/Al Drago)
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The E-7 radar plane will be cut, the senior defense official confirmed, «due to significant delays with cost increases from $588 million to $724 million per aircraft and survivability concerns in this contested environment.»
In an ideal world, Congress would pass 12 separate appropriations bills before the start of the fiscal year on October 1. But in recent years, it has often punted the headache down the road with continuing resolutions, or bills that temporarily fund the government at the previous year’s levels, and omnibuses, sprawling bills that contain funding for all 12 agencies in one up-or-down vote.
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Todo sobre el casamiento de Jeff Bezos: una desmesura VIP con doble de cuerpo incluido y un muñeco flotando en el Gran Canal

“No love” para Bezos en Venecia
Una boda muy custodiada
La pareja se casó hace un mes
La llegada de Jeff y Lauren
Ivanka y los custodios
Una tormenta inesperada
¿Bezos suelto por las calles de Venecia?
“Jeff en Venecia”
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Landsgemeinde, la democracia a mano alzada que resiste en los Alpes

En el cantón suizo de Glarus, el sistema Landsgemeinde representa una de las formas de democracia directa más antiguas del mundo que aún siguen en práctica. Según National Geographic, esta tradición se remonta a la época medieval y superó los 700 años de vigencia, manteniéndose como una de las señas de identidad de la vida política y social local.
La Landsgemeinde, cuyo nombre significa “asamblea comunitaria cantonal” en alemán, se desarrolla anualmente en la plaza principal de la localidad de Glarus, situada al pie de los Alpes. En esta jornada, que normalmente ocurre el primer domingo de mayo, los ciudadanos se congregan para decidir de manera pública sobre cuestiones legales y administrativas clave. Este método ancestral de votación, que ha sobrevivido a los cambios tecnológicos y a la modernización de los procesos electorales, sustituye las urnas y boletas por una votación a mano alzada frente a todos los presentes.
De acuerdo con National Geographic, solo dos cantones suizos conservan el Landsgemeinde: Glarus y Appenzell Innerrhoden. En Glarus, con una población cercana a los 41.000 habitantes, la costumbre de la asamblea se considera una herramienta central para buscar acuerdos en comunidad. El objetivo es hallar soluciones que, según la fórmula local, sean “un poco satisfactorias para todos y un poco insatisfactorias para todos”, favoreciendo el consenso y la tolerancia.
El desarrollo de la sesión está a cargo del funcionario principal, conocido como Landammann, quien dirige los debates y verifica visualmente, desde un estrado de madera, la cantidad de votos que apoyan o rechazan cada propuesta en discusión.

En el cantón de Glarus, el Landsgemeinde no solo permite la votación pública a mano alzada, sino que habilita a cualquier ciudadano con derecho a voto a proponer iniciativas —siempre que estas no contravengan la ley—. El proceso requiere que al menos 10 de los 60 parlamentarios cantonales respalden la iniciativa para que la propuesta avance al debate general en la asamblea.
Lo que hace especial este sistema, según palabras de sus protagonistas y autoridades como el Landammann Kaspar Becker, es la centralidad del compromiso y la búsqueda del consenso. La transparencia es absoluta: cada postura queda expuesta ante la comunidad, fomentando el respeto mutuo. Liderazgos políticos y ciudadanos sostienen que esta apertura alimenta un entorno social donde cada opinión puede ser defendida en público, y las diferencias de criterio no desembocan en enfrentamientos, sino en la aceptación plural.
Eva-Marie Kreis, concejala de Gemeinde Glarus y vicepresidenta del Partido Verde, comentó a National Geographic: “No importa que la gente sepa cómo voto, porque quiero que me respeten tal como soy. Y ese es el ADN de nuestro sistema político y democrático: que cada persona sea respetada tal como es”.
La experiencia ha demostrado que la democracia directa en Glarus −alejada de sistemas de votación secreta y burocratización− refuerza la participación voluntaria y la responsabilidad individual frente al colectivo. Aunque menos del 20% del censo asiste habitualmente, la decisión compartida y visible cultiva una noción de lo público difícil de replicar en otras escalas.
La naturaleza del modelo disuade, en la práctica, la imposición de grandes mayorías sobre minorías, favoreciendo acuerdos que, como señala la cultura local, son “un poco satisfactorios para todos y un poco insatisfactorios para todos”. No obstante, según Kreis, el sistema electoral de Glarus es clave para que la ciudad se haya convertido en un centro de política progresista. “Cuando la gente sabe lo que haces, votan más por lo que funciona para todos”, afirmó.

El sistema Landsgemeinde de Glarus ha sido escenario de decisiones innovadoras y reformas políticas que reflejan tanto el espíritu de adaptación como la voluntad mayoritaria de la comunidad. A lo largo de su historia reciente, destacan algunos hitos que posicionan a Glarus como referente en materia de progresismo dentro del contexto suizo.
En 2007, los ciudadanos de Glarus votaron para reducir la edad mínima para votar de 18 a 16 años, convirtiéndose en el único cantón en Suiza que permite ejercer el sufragio antes de la mayoría de edad. Esta decisión no solo subraya el compromiso con la inclusión de juventud en los procesos cívicos, sino que marca una diferencia respecto a la política nacional.
En el plano ambiental, el Landsgemeinde también ha dado pasos pioneros. En 2021, el parlamento cantonal endureció la Ley de Energía local, prohibiendo la instalación de sistemas de calefacción con combustibles fósiles en edificaciones nuevas. Este ajuste normativo convirtió a la ley energética de Glarus en una de las más avanzadas y restrictivas de toda Suiza.

Uno de los principales desafíos radica en la estimación visual de los votos: el Landammann debe decidir cuál opción es apoyada por más manos alzadas, un método sujeto a errores, sobre todo en votaciones ajustadas.
Además, la participación efectiva de la población es relativamente baja; menos del 20% de los ciudadanos habilitados acude a votar en la plaza, y la presencia física es esencial para incidir. Esto genera cuestionamientos sobre el alcance real de la representatividad de las decisiones adoptadas.
El derecho de palabra en la asamblea también tiene restricciones, ya que el tiempo otorgado para intervenir es limitado, lo que puede dejar propuestas sin exposición completa ante la asamblea. Un ejemplo reciente fue el de Nils Landolt, quien no logró terminar su defensa de una iniciativa educativa antes de ser interrumpido, lo que le dejó una sensación de frustración pese al orgullo de participar.
Finalmente, el carácter público de la votación, si bien valora la transparencia, puede influir sobre la libertad individual: todos pueden ver cómo vota cada quien, lo que en contextos más polarizados podría implicar presiones sociales. Lo que le dejó una sensación de frustración pese al orgullo de participar.
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